I bought this as a backup to my other Tournament Hatchet's and even though it's VIP it's remarkably similar. I love the Hatchet. It's incredible as a 9 speed turnover disc for a big forehand player or a slower arm speed backhand player. But more than that, I've even converted players in my playgroup with big backhands to this disc. It's superior to anything Innova or any of the other competitors make for this slot. Really can't say enough about how controllable this disc is in a tailwind
The Hatchet is a staple in my bag, and my new 165g VIP is just right - light enough to give me a little more distance, heavy enough that it doesn’t turn & burn when thrown with power. Thrown on a hyzer flip, it flies long and straight. For long turning shots it’s my disc of choice.