I throw forehand only and found this to be good for approach and drives from tee. However my Maiden VIP is more like 3|4|-1|2
To me, Vip Maiden feels more like 2|2|0|1 its like kastaplast bergs bigger brother. Its good but not like i expected. I havnt thrown this alot i must say. Theres also a thin sharp plastic line under the disc that i have noticed on some other discs.
Didn’t know I needed a throwing putter until I got one. Immediately ordered another with the next shipment. I have a bundle of BT softs, hards, and 2 VIPs.
Most comfortable disc I've ever thrown (VIP plastic).