Had I know that these were so overstable then I would have just bought VIP plastic Bears. The tournament plastic is a much different blend and the disc does not have the same flight numbers or characteristics as the VIP. For me they have almost the same flight as a felon just a shorter flight path when thrown hard with goof arm speed.
Hello, I would like to comment on the weights of shipped discs, but not have this posted as a public review - thanks. So, the disc in question here is a fantastic, beautiful disc! and I’m glad to have it. However, it was advertised as falling into a weight range of 165 to 169, and as I’ve been buying discs more on the lighter side these days, I was hoping for the lower end weight. When I weighed the disc on two scales I have, which are usually very close to the noted disc weights, it showed 171+g. This is no big worry and I don’t need to do an exchange or anything. But I do know some other online sellers weigh, picture and assign a number to every disc so that the buyer know exactly what they’re getting. Granted that sounds like a lot of work! I do like ordering direct from Latitude; and where I live some of the disc models are sometimes hard to find in shops. However, I’m becoming a bit more hesitant to order from a 5-gram weight range and not really knowing what I’ll get. So I just wanted to drop that into your in-house Comments Box for your consideration. And I’ll always consider your products as the best there are!
Awesome disc and looks good in the burst.
Great disc! Slightly less stable as the VIP-X first run, but still reliable even in headwind. Feels great in the hand.
Unfortunately, i got a orange one with a really weak burst :-(
The t-x version is a tad straighter then the vip ice version.